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to secure the release of damien echols, jesse mckelly, jason. thr threewestmemphis3.org. dennis reardon, eddie vedder, lorri davis and natalie maine, thank you for joining us. anderson cooper and "ac 360" is next. breaking news, which will affect millions of people on the east coast this holiday weekend. hurricane earl upgraded to a category 4 storm, fast approaching the east coast. the national hurricane center says its direction is relentless. those were their words with, sustained winds nearly 135 miles an hour. look at that storm. the strength of that eye. a hurricane hunter recorded a wind gust above storm surface at 199 miles per hour. we're going to bring in chad
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myers in a moment. take a look at this other image we've gotten of earl from the international space station. you can see the eye there in the center, right now about 500 miles south-southeast off north carolina. there are warnings and watches up and down the east coast of the united states and north carolina, mandatory evacuations have now been ordered in several communities, including hatteras island and the outer banks, popular destination for the upcoming labor day weekend. concerned by local officials is that people will not heed the warnings because they don't think it will be a direct hit. let's bring in chad myers. 199 miles an hour, unbelievable. >> hurricane hunter aircraft in there called miss piggy. they're kind of all named by the mupets. it flew right through the eye. as it flew through the eye it dropped a weather balloon, but it doesn't go up, it goes down. it has to drop down. they're flying. it found a gust on the way down
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to 199 miles per hour. that's literally like nascar at its fastest racetrack going around in a circle right there in the center of the eye. the storm, and it's the word you used and so did the storm center, relentless. it hasn't stopped moving from east to the northwest. it has been doing the same thing for days. it's forecast to be turning this way, turning this way. it just hasn't done it. all the models are saying turn, turn, turn. i'm not turning yet. finally, tonight, finally, we begin to see a slight edge, a slight turn to the north. is it soon enough? at this point, we really don't know. if it's not soon enough, a category 3, 115-mile-per-hour or stronger storm will slam into the outer banks of north carolina right through here somewhere. if it does turn in time, it will stay out to sea. the difference is, it's still 120 miles per hour, 150 miles per hour. if it's a 15, 20-mile miss,
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that's still a hit. you're still going to get damage. you're still going to get overwash. those outer bands and outer banks will get overwashed with rain and surge and the rip currents all along the east coast will be absolutely deadly. what is this weekend? labor day. people are going to want to be in the water. it's going to be dangerous. >> you're looking at an impact basically all along the east coast over the course of, what, we're talking from thursday late night -- >> why you. >> -- through friday? >> thursday tomorrow 2:00. here is friday morning, late. after midnight thursday night into friday morning. its closest approach to north carolina or right onshore north carolina, if it moves a little bit to the left. here is friday afternoon and then here is saturday afternoon. so, it really picks up speed as it moves to the north. cape cod right there, that will be some time friday afternoon, your closest approach to maybe say nantucket or so. it really starts to pick up
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forward speed by tuesday afternoon. but the winds, i think we're going to get an update. i don't want to get ahead of myself. but probably around 10:45, 10:50 i'll be back here. i think they will upgrade this thing even higher. not to a cat 5, but above 135 with the winds they're finding with that hurricane hunter aircraft, it's a big storm. >> we'll check back in with you when you get the update. several north carolina communities have ordered already mandatory evacuations, morehead city. mayor jones joins us on the phone. how concerned are you that people think this thing will veer off and, therefore, will not heed mandatory evacuations. >> are you talking to me now? >> yes, mayor. i'm sorry. >> yes, this is mayor gerald jones.
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outer bank islands and we hope people heed our orders. even though we declare a mandatory evacuation, it is still totally voluntary to the residents whether they leave or not. what is more important to us and, as you mentioned, this is labor day weekend, which is a very large tourism weekend for us. we have to err on the side of safety now and make sure our tourists understand the impact, the dangers of this hurricane and encourage them to go back home or not to come until the evacuation is lifted. >> this was the exact situation -- obviously it's a different kind of storm -- that new orleans was facing before hurricane katrina and the mayor there delayed mandatory evacuation for that very reason. he was concerned about affecting tourism. you made the decision, though -- it's a tough decision, because it can impact on tourist dollars and obviously on residents' lives. how many people are in your city? >> oh, in my city is about
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10,000 people. in carter county we have about 60. during the tourism season we have about 180,000. >> how bad are you expecting it to get? what have you been told by your folks? >> well, we've been -- we have a control group, which is all the mayors of the county plus the chairman of the county commissioner, plus our emergency management teams. and we also have had representatives from the national hurricane center here. and just like you, we keep watching the updates and trying to make decisions based on the information given to us. but the last update that we had around 7:00, they still expect the storm. it might jog and make landfall, but we really expect it to stay offshore about 60 miles. keep in mind this storm is 300 miles across. we're definitely going to feel tropical storm winds, no doubt. there's a strong chance we'll feel hurricane force winds. >> mr. mayor, i wish your
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community the best and appreciate you talking with us. we'll have an update, as i said, just -- probably in the next 30 or 40 minutes or so, bring that to you when we can. gerald jones, thank you very much, mr. mayor. we'll continue to track the storm and check back with chad myers later. live chat is up and running, as always, at ac360.com. you can talk to viewers around the world or around the united states watching. more breaking news tonight. police still searching the headquarters for discovery television, looking for explosives. a man who had a beef against the discovery channel and basically humankind itself held three people hostage today till police shot him dead. his name was james lee. we'll take a look at what made him tick. his rants online are bizarre. we'll also hear his voice when he was called, actually, inside headquarters. we have the tape of that. some early answers about why he did what he did. also ahead, keeping them honest. why would anyone be against some efforts to stop schoolyard
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breaking news in silver spring, maryland outside washington, d.c. where police are still scouring the headquarters of the discovery channel building, looking for bombs or explosive devices. it was a hostage scene earlier today. his name, we now know, is james lee, linked to a rant which he posted on the internet, in which he called civilization filthy and demand that all programs on discovery stop encouraging the birth of any more parasitic. producer at nbc news called the discovery channel and, incredibly, mr. lee picked up the phone and calmly issued a deadly threat.
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listen. >> do you have a gun? >> i have a gun and i have a bomb. i have several bombs strapped to my body, ready to go off. >> in the end, lee was killed by police. hostages were freed, unharmed. tom foreman takes a look at how it all unfolded. >> reporter: 1:00 pm, seven miles from capitol hill in the washington suburb of silver spring. a man walks into the lobby of the discovery channel, waving a pistol, metallic canisters strap ed to his body, telling everyone not to move. workers begin sounding the alarm throughout the building. 1:21, company officials send an e-mail, urging employees to, quote, seek protection in a locked office. some do, but most of the 1,900 workers evacuate, slipping out through passageways that bypass the lobby. children from a daycare center inside the building also are hustled away, but some people
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are trapped in the lobby with the gunman. police surround the building. the standoff begins. >> there are heavily armed police officers surrounding the building. >> reporter: 2:20, an hour and 20 minutes after the gunman entered the building, police confirm their tactical team has them in their sights and will later say they were watching him through security cameras while other officers are trying to negotiate with him by cell phone. much remains unclear. >> there may be some other potential devices with him. >> reporter: a short while later, a law enforcement source identifies the man as james lee, who has clashed with the discovery channel before, demanding attention for his ideas about humans and nature. negotiators keep talking but later will say he has wild mood swings during their
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conversation. >> during this past hour, the negotiators would be trying to calm him down emotionally, to try to de-escalate the need for violence, trying to convince him there's a way to end this peacefully. >> reporter: it does not work. police say at approximately 4:50 pm, nearly four hours after lee entered the building, a sniper shoots. >> the suspect was shot by police officers. a device appeared to go off. >> reporter: three hostages, that's all there were, are rushed to safety while police secure the building and deal with what they believe are other possible explosives the suspect brought in backpacks. in the whole ordeal, no one other than the gunman is hurt. but just before 6:00 pm, police confirm he is dead. >> tom, what's the latest on the search at the discovery building?
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also i understand you have new information about the actual shooting. >> let's talk about the search, anderson. it's still going on. crews are on the scene there. police are still securing this building, making sure there are no other problems. we did hear a couple of booms a little while ago. we don't know what those are. it would be in keeping with the sort of operation that that might be the destruction of suspicious packages and there are backpacks as he brought inside. police are quite concerned about that, they made it clear. the actual moment in which this man was shot by police has had a little confusion about it. initially, police said one of the hostages tried to move or moved in some fashion and that this man pulled his pistol and pointed it at the hostage. that's when they shot him. later version of the story from police said some of the tactical people around heard sharp pops like explosions or gunshots and felt they had to move in. that's when they moved in and shot him. it seems like there's simply some confusion over that right now, anderson. of course, there will be a lot of questions to make sure that's
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cleared up to see what really happened. >> a lot of scary moments today, watching this thing unfold. appreciate the reporting. you heard in that clip james lee talking on the phone, hostage negotiators discovered they were dealing with a volatile guy. beyond that, though, we wanted to find out what we could about this guy, lee. amber lyons has been working that angle. tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: good evening, anderson. before we get into 43-year-old james lee, in the past hour we've heard four loud pops coming from the direction of the discovery communications building, which is a couple of blocks over my shoulder. we don't quite know yet what they were, but they did sound like explosions going off. but now let's get into 43-year-old james lee. we spoke with a forensic psychologist earlier today, dr. helen morrison and she compares lee's behavior to that of ted kaczynski, the unabomber, he had
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some type of paranoia paired with rage, directed at discovery communications. apparently lee felt this network wasn't doing enough to save the planet. in that manifesto, he calls for the network to completely overhaul its programming and change it to shows that do not promote or deplore if i human growth. he calls human babies disgusting in the manifesto and seemed to be very concerned about overpopulation and also very concerned with wildlife. a quote from the manifesto, nothing is more important than saving them, lions, tigers, giraffes, elephants, froggies, turtles, apes, raccoons, beetles, ants, sharks, bears and, of course, the squirrels. lee would often come in there, wearing green-colored, military style clothing, as if he was
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ready to go to battle. he would wear that type of garb every single day. they say one thing was for sure. he would always be ranting and raving about that network. >> so what do you mean when you say you knew something wasn't right? >> well, his opinions about things. we couldn't understand why he hated the discovery channel. we just couldn't figure that out. >> every single day he was talking about how much he hated the discovery channel? >> yes, every day. something about children, having overpopulation of children. he had a problem with that as well. >> did anyone at borders say what the heck are you doing, mr. lee, and start arguing with him? >> there were discussions, yes. there were a lot of people that said he's just crazi and blew it off. >> certainly seems crazy. he has been arrested before outside discovery, right? didn't he protest there? >> reporter: yeah. he had a protest, anderson, quite strange for police. they say that lee was throwing thousands of dollars of cash into the air and it created quite a bit of a ruckus and they
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charged him with disorderly conduct and he was ordered to stay away from that discovery communications building. anderson? >> unbelievable. amber lyon, appreciate the reporting. keeping them honest, the group focused on the family, claim that anti-bullying is pushing an a gay agenda. new efforts to make a hole underground feel more like home.
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we talked a lots on this program about bullying in schools. we covered the deaths of a number of kids who took their life after being relentlessly bullied. you remember carl walker-hoover, he was just 11 years old.
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jaheem herrera, same kind of taunts. he also hanged himself. so did ryan halligan, taunted by girls, called a loser. eric mohat took a gun from his fath father's dresser drawer and turned it on himself after being bullied again and again. all too often parents of kids who have been bullied find the schools don't take the problem serious enough. here is what carl's mother said on capitol hill. >> i did everything that a parent is supposed to do. i chose a good school. i joined the pto. i went to every parent-teacher conference. i called the school regularly and i brought the bullying problem to their staff's attention. the school did not act. the teachers did not know how to respond. >> right now, there's legislation making its way through congress, safe schools improvement act, defining bullying of conduct placing students in reasonable fear of physical harm, based on race, color, national origin,
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disability, sex or sexual orientation. but a conservative group, focuseded on the family, is objecting to the bill saying that gay activists are using the bullying issue to push their agenda in the schools. joining us is candy kushman of focus on the family, eliza bard and rosalyn wiseman, who works with schools across the country also the author of "queen bees and wanna bes." appreciate you all being with us. candy, you say the gay groups are using anti-bullying efforts to push what you call the gay agenda. my question, i guess, if there are gay kids in schools being bullied and even if there are kids who aren't gay, but are perceived as that or just being called the "f" word and harassed, how do you stop that if you can't mention anything about gays and lesbians?
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>> first, let me just say that we absolutely think every child should be protected from bullying. we know that bullies target children for a myriad of reasons. it could be that they're a little overweight, they wear glasses, maybe they're a special needs child and maybe they do identify as gay or lesbian and we believe that all of those kids, without exception, should be protected from bullying. >> how do you do that, though, without mentioning gays or lesbians or mentioning race or any of those other things when you're trying to combat it? >> well, we think that bullying policies, bullying prevention policies would be most effective if they addressed the far-reaching nature of this problem, which is so many kids, 30% of american children are dealing with this. we really feel like the most effective policies and initiatives would be ones that protect any child against bullying for any reason. >> what does that mean? specifically, how do you do that? >> the correct focus would be preventing the wrong actions of the bully, not focusing on the
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characteristics of the victims. it doesn't matter why the victim was targeted. what matters is that their harm -- harming them was wrong for any reason. >> eliza, your group has been accused by focus on the family by spreading what they call a gay aendcamera in schools. why do you need to talk about or mention gays and lesbians in anti-bullying efforts? >> canndi and i absolutely agre that all students need to be protective. the data bears out that if you don't mention the specific problems, teachers don't act and students don't have a better experience. our bill would cover all students but indicate specifically that you must also include attention to these characteristics. and when you do, our data shows rates of harassment and victimization of lgbt, lesbian, gay, bisexual goes down.
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>> are you opposed to mentioning issues of race or opposed to mentioning issues of disability or a myriad of other reasons that kids could be taunted? are you okay with mentioning those things in stopping anti- -- or addressing bullying? >> what we're in favor of are objective bullying policies that prevent bullying for any reason against any child. you know, i would be concerned if you started listing out too many categories. you're going to leave some kids off the list. what about overweight or kids that wear glasses? >> can a teacher talk about that to a classroom? can a teacher say some people are taunted because of race? and let's talk about that or let's talk about being overweight and let's talk about that. is that okay for you?wel what w to through our website, true tolerance.org, which spurred some of this discussion, we're hearing from parents that are having homosexuality lessons presented to their kindergartners in the name of anti-bullying and don't feel that's necessary.
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even the most effective way to prevent bullying. >> let me bring in rosalyn on that to address that point. let me come to you in a second. eliza, is that true? >> listen, i think the first thing i want to say is that focus on the family has chosen and, candi, you have chosen to attack the safe schools improvement act. what we find is that when school level policies actually mention sexual orientation and gender identity, rates of bullying and harassment go down. this is for all students. in 2005, students of all sexual orientations, races, religions told us when their school had this kind of policy in place, those students were less likely to say that bullying was a serious problem in their school. >> rosalyn, you work with schools all the time. >> all the time. >> you travel around the country. what do you actually see? do you see an agenda being spread and can you address bullying -- focus on the family is saying focus on the bully. is that an effective program?
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>> two things. one is that as a counselor who is actually going to be straighting this program, you have so many things to do that usually what happens, even with all these mandates the best you'll get is a 45-minute presentation with 500 kids. a lot of our programs in schools are big schools, 3,000 kids, 2,500 kids. the logistics make this pretty much impossible for us to be able to do. that's the first thing. second, this is not just about the gay kids in school. it's about everybody. bullying does not exist without homophobia. kids are proving, they have to prove they belong to be men -- you're in seventh grade and you say something, you're speaking out about something being cruel, then someone is going to say to you, don't be gay. and that stops you from being able to say what you want to say, which is don't do it. that's literally teaching you to be paralyzed and silent in the face of cruelty. it's not just about the gay kids being safe, which i believe 100% they have the right to to be. it is also about everybody in the school feeling that they have the right to speak out.
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if we don't name this behavior, then we are going to lose it and it's going to go back to bullying in the playground is the problem and we're going to lose all of the improvements we've made. >> candi, the idea of naming that behavior, you're opposed to, yes? >> well, i would be in favor of a teacher directly confronting a child bullying another child that's identified as gay. i think that should be stopped. our viewpoint comes from the belief that all human beings, all students are created in god's image and deserve to be protected because they are a human being, uniquely created by god and not because of the political subgroup they identify with or how they identify sexually. that's how we think these bullying policies should be based, widespread, neutral protection. >> anderson, can i say, but in all respect -- in all respect, it does not in any way reflect the reality of what schools are like. we can have policies that are about ideal reality or policies
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that are about concrete reality and reflect what children are experiencing. that's when we become relevant to young people. if you don't, it doesn't work. >> why don't you focus on the bully? if you read focus on the family -- >> you have to do both. >> they have a three-page thing saying bullying is bad. you should, you know, punish the bullies, not tolerate it, not tolerate people attacking anybody who has come forward to speak. what's wrong with just that? >> because when you do that, it becomes a gray area and it becomes a he said, she said or he said, he said thing. and it becomes a way of it's on -- the owness is on the victim to be able to prove that, without a shadow of the doubt that what's happened to him or what's happened to her is so difficult it's impossible for them to be able to go to school. that's what we're doing. that's what we're talking about. you take out that language of naming the behavior, it becomes so -- there's nothing to talk
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about. there's no place to talk. there's no place for that kid to define what's happening to them and they also feel like they're so ashamed that they can't talk about it. these words are not allowed to be talked about. so then they lose the whole process and the whole ability to have the conversation and become silent. >> certainly a lot of parents don't believe that being gay or being lesbian is okay and don't want their kids, especially very young kids, being exposed to that. do you think this should be mandatory for everybody? >> the safe schools improvement act is about behavior, not beliefs. apart from any other kind of diversity curriculum or importance of respect in a diverse society, just looking at safe schools improvement act and the problem of bullying, when you name the problem, people act. teachers in schools that have these policies are more likely to stop this and kids are less likely to be harassed and victimized and essentially, as rosalyn is referring to, it's a dynamic in a classroom. bullies need our help. victims need our help and bystanders need our help. they need adults to act, to take
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care of the culture of that classroom and build a new culture of respect. >> candi, your final thought? >> what we're concerned about are the parents we're getting phone calls from that don't want controversial sexual topics introduced to their kids without their permission, especially at the kindergarten level. that's why we wanted to say this this issue doesn't need to be politicized. we don't need to -- we want all kids to be protected from bullying for any reason. just ahead, update on hurricane earl coming up, massive now category 4 storm, chad myers has the latest from the national hurricane center. also tonight, 33 miners trapped from hot meals to mp3 players, their life has changed a lot underground in a few days. we'll show you a new individuvi
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imagine not having a hot meal for about a month. for the first time since being trapped underground, more than three weeks ago, the 33 miners in chile tonight are having a hot dinner. it's a milestone in their ordeal and comes as rescue workers have finally begun to drill to free th them. the first video we showed you friday night of their situation underground. we have new video tonight. it seems their situation has improved a lot. it's tonight's "360 dispatch." take a look. >> for the 33 men, this is their lifeline, one of three narrow tubes that brings them bottles of water, food and medicine. so supplies needed to sustain them for months underground. the latest video taken by the miners offers encouraging new details about their subterranean existence.
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when the ordeal began, the men were given only liquid vitamins and protein. now they're being sent sandwiches, yogurt and cereal. for dinner wednesday night, they're having meatballs and rice. >> we've been eating according to the diet you sent us, mario says. piece by piece, beds have arrived. beds are given to those who need them the most. the phone they use to communicate with officials and loved ones and to show us that their sense of humor is intact, we put the phone over here so each one can have some privacy, he says. chill chilean men are very macho and don't like other people to see us cry. they now have mp3 players. music has arrived, organizing today's party. we're super happy, dancing to all the songs. 2,300 feet above, a drill cuts into the earth, beginning of what everyone prays is the end
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of the the families of the miners are nearby in tent. they call it camp hope. we're happy because the drill has arrived, the wife of one miner says. we're happy because we know they'll rescue them. back in the mine, a strange sight. white pickup truck once used to ferry the men to work is now a place to sleep for one of the miners, in an area moved to as rescue crews draw closer. the video ends with a chant for their country with the message of unity and patriotism. to all of chile. if we felt proud about our country and chilean mining before, we feel even more proud because of what's being done. joining us with the "360 bulletin." >> the dutch government has freed two men arrested monday on suspicion of terrorism after flight from chicago. they are citizens of yemen and were in the u.s. legally. alarms were raised by suspicious
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items in their checked luggage. an investigation turned up no evidence of terrorist activity. the imam who wants to build an islamic center and mosque near ground zero returns to new york tomorrow. feisal abdul rauf has been in the middle east on an outreach mission for the state department. a national debate has been sparked over religious freedom versus the sensitivities of 9/11 families. apple is reintroducing a new and much smaller version of apple tv and slashing the price to $99 from $299. one new feature, anderson, tv shows can be rented for just 99 cents. >> that's cool. >> i have to tell you, i'm thinking about relocating to my surfer, changing my cell phone message saying isha can't be reached right now, she's watching every episode of "grey's anatomy" ever made. >> are you a grey's anatomy fan? >> i am.
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aren't you? >> never watched it. >> what would you -- >> breaking bad on tmz. >> good choice, anderson. optimistic remarks made by both sides. david gergen joins us to go over what was said and what needs to be done next. we're waiting an update on the national hurricane center on earl as it nears north carolina. the hope is that it will start jogging to the right. we'll see if that's actually going to happen. the latest on the storm, coming up. sir, have you been drinking tonight? if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested. until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work. [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health.
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mideast leaders have been trying and fail iing formal tal tomorrow, benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas,resident obama said the two sides had made progress. here is prime minister netanyahu. >> president abbas, you are my partner in peace. and it is up to us, with the help of our friends, to conclude the agonizing conflict between
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our peoples and to afford them a new beginning. >> so, is this a new beginning or is this like so many beginnings we've seen before in years past? joining us now is senior poli c political analyst david gergen. thank you very much for being with us. what do you make of end the conflict between us once and for all. is this a big deal? >> there are signs of hope, tempered hope, to be sure. the fact that two sides were sitting down, talking to each other directly for the first time in almost two years, that's progress. the fact that after intense provocation with hamas shooting israelis in the west bank, both leaders vowed tonight, palestinian and israeli leaders vowed tonight they wouldn't let terrorists derail these talks.
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the fact that president obama got egyptian president and king abdullah of jordan to give backing to this. as anyone who has watch ed this over the years knows the odds are still long. september 26th, netanyahu has to decide if he's going to extend the freeze on settlements and that's -- whole talks could collapse very shortly if he decides to go forward. there's a lot of pressure in israel to have some kind of settlement. >> how much rides on president obama for this? i mean, is it -- is there a lot riding on it for him? obviously if there's progress, that reflects well on him. if there's not, is there any blowback for that? >> well, we have seen in the past when president clinton got deeply involved and president bush got deeply involved, they made progress and then things failed and there was renewed violence. so, you can go backwards if you try too hard. what's interesting here, anderson, is that king abdullah
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of jordan called directly on president obama to inject himself and be the leader in these talks. last night, of course, president obama gave a speech to this country, saying we're pivoting. we're going to make jobs and the economy here at home my central focus. within 24 hours he's off with this critical new phase in the middle east. a lot of americans would get whiplash watching this. from my perspective, anderson, it will be really important that he give hillary clinton and george mitchell, her negotiator, a lot of responsibility in these early months while he focuses on the economy. i just don't see how he can go off and spend sort of kissingerian time in the middle east. i don't think that serves the country's interest and i don't think he's going to want to do that right now. >> david gergen, we'll continue to watch. thank you. up next, hurricane earl now cat 4 storm approaching the u.s. chad myers is crunching the very
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breaking news, hurricane earl, category 4 storm, winds nearly 135 miles an hour, approaching the koist of north carolina, threatening much of the eastern shore this weekend, mainly friday, saturday. as we told you, mandatory evacuations already under way in some areas. chad myers has the latest. what have we learned? >> big storm, literally. could be bigger at the 11:00 update. there is earl, fiona and now gaston, who did a lot of damage around richmond, virginia, six years ago. remember, they do recycle the names. it's not a new name every year. if it's not a damaging storm that caused a lot of damage and a lot of deaths, they reuse the name rather than retire it. earl may be one of the things we have to get rid of. east storm rather large. wind gust. for a while, we had a plane flying through it, hurricane hunter aircrafts flew through it, put down basically a weather balloon, though it wasn't a
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balloon. it was on a parachute. it's already in the sky. it found a wind gust of 199 miles per hour. not at surface. a couple thousand feet up, but it still counts. it's still a wind gust. as this storm continues, trying to turn away from the shore -- boy, we sure hope that happens in the overnight hours. the 5:00 update has it overshore, 11:00 update will be coming on soon. you can always go to cnn.com/hurricane for the very latest. >> we have a text 360 question from washington. what's your advice to people who plan to vacation to the east coast for the coming weekend? should they cancel? >> this will be over by the weekend. here is 2:00 saturday afternoon. that's newfoundland, nova scotia. it will be settling down. if you are going to be there friday, all the way along the east coast, there will be rip currents that will be tearing people away from the shore right into the ocean. those rip currents, it's water that washes over a sand bar that you can't even see just out in
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the ocean. then that sand bar breaks because of all the erosion. right where that break is is where all the water rushes back out. if you're right there, you're rushing out with it. so, this is going to be one of those weekends to just -- >> is it going to be rain all along the east coast? >> no. it will be over, completely over by friday afternoon. it will be beautiful for the weekend. >> okay. >> right now it's a wednesday, thursday, friday event. >> chad, thank you very much. continue to follow it. we're following more news tonight. isha sesay is back with the "360 bulletin." >> michael douglas says he's battling stage four throat cancer, discussing his grueling treatment yesterday on "the late night show with david letterman." >> let's put it this way. this is the first week and the progression goes -- >> still in all -- >> goes down. >> still, in all, i think it says a great deal to the hopeful outcome of this that you're just taking it head on, for god's saks. >> you have to. but this is the first week and
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the chemo and the radiation, the radiation continues to burn your mouth, becomes more difficult to swallow. you can't take solids. so, the whole trip is not a -- >> did they find it early enough for their liking? >> i sure as [ muted ] hope so. >> yeah. >> in september, the dow climbing 254 points, s&p adding 50 points. and this from team cocoa.com, conan o'brien revealing the name of his new late-night show coming to tbs november 8th. the new show name "conan." he writes on his website, anderson, listen up, really pushing for "360 with anderson cooper featuring conan o'brien." your graphic scene came up with a potential show look --
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>> i didn't notice me with the red hair there. that's even creepier than me with silver hair. >> i'm loving the head hair. dreamy. >> i wush i could grow a beard like conan does. >> not such a good look. >> you don't like the beard? i think it's kind of cool. >> no, uh-uh. not so much. >> wow, tough crowd. all right. isha, thanks very much. for tonight's shot. pretty much the reason the internet was invented, isha, after a heavy night, nothing like a dog in a dress dancing the merenge. where else would we find it but youtube? that's right. just watch and enjoy. oh, hey. gets lonely out on the farm. no one to dance with.
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there we go. there's a little dress. learned to dress himself. i don't know if that's true. >> that is so troubling. >> it's troubling. >> it is troubling. i like the whole thing about, you know, if the dog had been do ing hip-hop, it would have been a hip-hop dancing dog. >> yes, it would have been. we obviously want to wish michael douglas the best. >> we all do. >> yes. serious stuff, hurricane earl growing stronger, getting closer to the east coast. details ahead. hey, smart, we could stay here fothe conference. i'm a member of this hotel's loyalty program. well, how far away is it? okay, we take a train 40 miles to a dude ranch where we pick up a couple of horses that we ride to a nearby river. then we canoe upstream to a helicopter that takes us to the conference. or we could book with hotels.com and stay closer. see, with welcomerewards, no matter where you accumulate 10 nights, you get a free one. huh. smarter. [ male announcer ] accumulate 10 nights and get a night free.
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good evening. we begin with breaking news, which will affect millions of people on the east coast this hoerld weekend. hurricane earl upgraded to a category 4 storm, fast approaching the east coast. the national hurricane center
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says its direction is relentless. those were their words, with sustained winds nearly 135 miles an hour. look at that storm. the strength of that eye. a hurricane hunter recorded a wind gust above storm surface at 199 miles per hour. we're going to bring in chad myers in a moment. take a look at this other image we've gotten of earl from the international space station. you can see the eye there in the center, right now about 500 miles south-southeast off north carolina. there are warnings and watches up and down the east coast of the united states and north carolina, mandatory evacuations have now been ordered in several communities, including hatteras island and the outer banks, popular destination for the upcoming labor day weekend. concerned by local officials is that people will not heed the warnings because they don't think it will be a direct hit. let's bring in chad myers, who is closely tracking the storm. 199 miles an hour, unbelievable. >> hurricane hunter aircraft in there called miss piggy. they're kind of all named by the muppets.
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anyway, it's been flying back and forget. a few moments ago, it flew right through the eye. as it flew through the eye it dropped a weather balloon, but it doesn't go up, it goes down. it has to drop down. they're flying. it found a gust on the way down to 199 miles per hour. that's literally like nascar at its fastest racetrack going around in a circle right there in the center of the eye. the storm, and it's the word you used and so did the hurricane center, relentless. it hasn't stopped moving from east to the northwest. it has been doing the same thing for days. it's forecast to be turning this way, turning this way. it just hasn't done it. all the models are saying turn, turn, turn. i'm not turning yet. finally, tonight, finally, we begin to see a slight edge, a slight turn to the north. is it soon enough? at this point, we really don't know. if it's not soon enough, a category 3, 115-mile-per-hour or stronger storm will slam into the outer banks of north
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carolina right through here somewhere. if it does turn in time, it will stay out to sea. the difference is, it's still 120 miles per hour, 150 miles per hour. if it's a 15, 20-mile miss, that's still a hit. you're still going to get damage. you're still going to get overwash. those outer bands and outer banks will get overwashed with rain and surge and the rip currents all along the east coast will be absolutely deadly. what is this weekend? labor day. people are going to want to be in the water. it's going to be dangerous. >> you're looking at an impact basically all along the east coast over the course of, what, we're talking from thursday late night -- >> yes. >> -- through friday? >> thursday tomorrow 2:00. here is friday morning, late. after midnight thursday night into friday morning.
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its closest approach to north carolina or right onshore north carolina, if it moves a little bit to the left. here is friday afternoon and then here is saturday afternoon. so, it really picks up speed as it moves to the north. cape cod right there, that will be some time friday afternoon, your closest approach to maybe say nantucket or so. it really starts to pick up forward speed by tuesday afternoon. but the winds, i think -- we're going to get an update. i don't want to get ahead of myself. but probably around 10:45, 10:50 i'll be back here. i think they will upgrade this thing even higher. not to a cat 5, but above 135 with the winds they're finding with that hurricane hunter aircraft, it's a big storm. >> we'll check back in with you when you get the update. several north carolina communities have ordered already mandatory evacuations, morehead city. gerald jones jr. is the mayor there. i want to put up the radar so you get a picture while we talk to mayor jones. how concerned are you that people think this thing will veer off and, therefore, will
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not heed mandatory evacuations? >> are you talking to me now? >> yes. i'm sorry, mr. mayor. >> yes, this is mayor gerald jones. we have warned carter county and evacuated them and the outer bank islands and we hope people heed our orders. even though we declare a mandatory evacuation, it is still totally voluntary to the residents whether they leave or not. what is more important to us and, as you mentioned, this is labor day weekend, which is a very large tourism weekend for us. we have to err on the side of safety now and make sure our tourists understand the impact, the dangers of this hurricane and encourage them to go back home or not to come until the evacuation is lifted. >> this was the exact situation -- obviously it's a
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different kind of storm -- that new orleans was facing before hurricane katrina and the mayor there delayed mandatory evacuation for that very reason. he was concerned about affecting tourism. you made the decision, though -- it's a tough decision, because it can impact on tourist dollars and obviously on residents' lives. how many people are in your city? >> oh, in my city is about 10,000 people. in carter county we have about 60. during the tourism season we have about 180,000. >> how bad are you expecting it to get? what have you been told by your folks? >> well, we've been -- we have a control group, which is all the mayors of the county plus the chairman of the county commissioner, plus our emergency management teams. and we also have had representatives from the national hurricane center here. and just like you, we keep watching the updates and trying to make decisions based on the information given to us. but the last update that we had around 7:00, they still expect the storm. it might jog and make landfall,
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but we really expect it to stay offshore about 60 miles. keep in mind this storm is 300 miles across. we're definitely going to feel tropical storm winds, no doubt. there's a strong chance we'll feel hurricane force winds. >> mr. mayor, i wish your community the best and appreciate you talking with us. we'll have an update, as i said, just -- probably in the next 30 or 40 minutes or so, bring that to you when we can. gerald jones, thank you very much, mr. mayor. we'll continue to track the storm and check back with chad myers later. live chat is up and running, as always, at ac360.com. you can talk to viewers around the world or around the united states watching. more breaking news tonight. police still searching the headquarters for discovery television, sweeping -- looking for explosives. a man who had a beef against the discovery channel and basically humankind itself held three people hostage today till police shot him dead. his name was james lee. we'll take a look at what made him tick. his rants online are bizarre.
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we'll also hear his voice when he was called, actually, inside headquarters. we have the tape of that. some early answers about why he did what he did. also ahead, keeping them honest. why would anyone be against some efforts to stop schoolyard bullying? you'll hear one group's explanation. we'll talk about that with people on all sides of the issue. in 2008 i quit venture capital to follow my passion for food. i saw a gap in the market for a fresh culinary brand and launched behindtheburner.com. we create and broadcast content
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you've got staying power. breaking news in silver spring, maryland outside washington, d.c. where police are still scouring the headquarters of the discovery channel building, looking for bombs or explosive devices. that's because it was the scene today of a hostage drama for several hours, the building stormed by an armed man who held
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three people at gunpoint. his name, we now know, is james lee, linked to a rant which he posted on the internet, in which he called civilization filthy and demanded that all programs on discovery stop encouraging what he called and i quote the birth of any more parasitic hum humans. producer at nbc news called the discovery channel and, incredibly, mr. lee picked up the phone and calmly issued a deadly threat. listen. >> do you have a gun? >> i have a gun and i have a bomb. i have several bombs strapped to my body, ready to go off. >> in the end, lee was killed by police. hostages were freed, unharmed. tom foreman takes a look at how it all unfolded. >> reporter: 1:00 pm, seven miles from capitol hill in the washington suburb of silver spring. police say a man walks into the lobby of the discovery channel, waving a pistol, metallic canisters strapped to his body,
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telling everyone not to move. one witness says she hears a shot. another calls police. workers begin sounding the alarm throughout the building. 1:21, company officials send an e-mail, urging employees to, quote, seek protection in a locked office. some do, but most of the 1,900 workers evacuate, slipping out through passageways that bypass the lobby. children from a daycare center inside the building also are hustled away, but some people are trapped in the lobby with the gunman. police surround the building. the standoff begins. >> there are heavily armed police officers surrounding the building. police cars, armored vehicle. >> reporter: 2:20, an hour and 20 minutes after the gunman entered the building, police confirm their tactical team has them in their sights and will later say they were also watching him through security cameras while other officers are trying to negotiate with him by
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cell phone. much remains unclear. >> there may be some other potential devices with him. >> reporter: a short while later, a law enforcement source identifies the man as james lee, who has clashed with the discovery channel before, demanding attention for his ideas about humans and nature. negotiators keep talking but will later say he has wild mood swings during their conversation. >> during this past hour, the negotiators would be trying to calm him down emotionally, to try to de-escalate the potential for violence, to try to convince him that there's a way to resolve this without nobody else being hurt or without anybody being hurt at all and try to end this peacefully. >> reporter: it does not work. police say at approximately 4:50 pm, nearly four hours after lee entered the building, a sniper shoots. >> the suspect was shot by police officers.
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a device appeared to go off. >> reporter: three hostages, that's all there were, are rushed to safety while police secure the building and deal with what they believe are other possible explosives the suspect brought in backpacks. in the whole ordeal, no one other than the gunman is hurt. but just before 6:00 pm, police confirm he is dead. >> tom, what's the latest on the search at the discovery building? also i understand you have new information about the actual shooting. >> let's talk about the search, anderson. as you mentioned, it's still going on. our crews are on the scene there. police are still securing this building, making sure there are no other problems. we did hear a couple of booms a little while ago. we don't know what those are. it would be in keeping with the sort of operation that that might be the destruction of suspicious packages and there are backpacks as he brought inside. police are quite concerned about that, they made it clear. the actual moment in which this
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man was shot by police has had a little confusion about it. initially, police said one of the hostages tried to move or moved in some fashion and that this man pulled his pistol and pointed it at the hostage. that's when they shot him. a later version of the story from the police said that some of the tactical people around heard sharp pops like explosions or gunshots and felt they had to move in. that's when they moved in and shot him. it seems like there's simply some confusion over that right now, anderson. of course, there will be a lot of questions to make sure that's cleared up to see what really happened. >> a lot of scary moments today, watching this thing unfold. appreciate the reporting. >> as tom mentioned, you heard in that clip james lee talking on the phone. hostage negotiators discovered they were dealing with a volatile guy. beyond that, though, we wanted to find out what we could about this guy, lee. amber lyons has been working that angle. tell us what you've learned. >> reporter: good evening, anderson.
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before we get into 43-year-old james lee, in the past hour we've heard four loud pops coming from the direction of the discovery communications building, which is a couple of blocks over my shoulder. we don't quite know yet what they were, but they did sound like explosions going off. but now let's get into 43-year-old james lee. we spoke with a forensic psychologist earlier today, dr. helen morrison, and she compares lee's behavior to that of ted kaczynski, the unabomber. she says based on his writings that he had some type of paranoia paired with rage, directed at discovery communications. apparently lee felt this network wasn't doing enough to save the planet. he even wrote an online manifesto. in that manifesto, he calls for the network to completely overhaul its programming and change it to shows that do not promote or glorify human growth. he even calls human babies at one point disgusting in the manifesto and lee seemed to be very, very concerned about
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overpopulation and also was very concerned with wildlife. i want to read you a quote from this manifesto. it says nothing is more important than saving them, the lions, tigers, giraffes, elephants, froggies, turtles, apes, raccoons, beetles, ants, sharks, bears and, of course, the squirrels. we spoke with some people that hung out at a coffee shop near the discovery communications building. they say lee would often come in there, wearing green-colored, military-style clothing, as if he was ready to go to battle. he would wear that type of garb every single day. they say one thing was for sure. he would always be ranting and raving about that network. >> so what do you mean when you say you knew something wasn't right? >> well, his opinions about things. we couldn't understand why he hated the discovery channel. we just couldn't figure that out. >> every single day he was talking about how much he hated the discovery channel? >> yes, every day. something about children, having overpopulation of children.
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he had a problem with that as well. >> did anyone at borders say what the heck are you doing, mr. lee, and start arguing with him? >> there were discussions, yes. there were a lot of people that said he's just crazy and blew it off. >> certainly seems crazy. he has been arrested before outside discovery, right? didn't he protest there? >> reporter: yeah. he had a protest, anderson. it was quite strange for police. they say that lee was throwing thousands of dollars of cash into the air and it created quite a bit of a ruckus and they charged him with disorderly conduct and he was ordered to stay away from that discovery communications building. anderson? >> unbelievable. amber lyon, appreciate the reporting. keeping them honest, the group focused on the family, say that a push for anti-bullying policies is a push for pro gay agenda in schools. new efforts to make a hole underground feel more like home. [ male announcer ] sometimes after surgery straining should be avoided.
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we talked a lot on this
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program about bullying in schools. we covered the deaths of a number of kids who have actually taken their lives after being relentlessly bullied. you remember carl walker-hoover, he was just 11 years old. students taunted him, saying he acted gay. he hanged himself. jaheem herrera, same kind of taunts. he also hanged himself. so did ryan halligan, taunted by girls, called a loser. eric mohat, bullied again and again until one day he took a gun from his father's dresser drawer and turned it on himself. all too often parents of kids who have been bullied find the schools don't take the problem serious enough. here is what carl's mother said on capitol hill. >> i did everything that a parent is supposed to do. i chose a good school. i joined the pto. i went to every parent-teacher conference. i called the school regularly and i brought the bullying problem to their staff's attention. the school did not act. the teachers did not know how to
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respond. >> right now, there's legislation making its way through congress, safe schools improvement act, defining bullying of conduct placing students in reasonable fear of physical harm, conduct based on race, color, national origin, disability, sex or sexual orientation, all standard characteristics for civil rights. but a conservative group, focused on the family, is objecting to the bill saying that gay activists are using the bullying issue to push their agenda in the schools. joining us is candi cushman of focus on the family, eliza byard and rosalyn wiseman, who works with schools across the country on bullying issues and also is the author of "queen bees and wanna bes." appreciate you all being with us. candi, you say the gay groups are using anti-bullying efforts to push what you call the gay agenda, teaching kids about gay
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marriage, homosexuality. my question, i guess, if there are gay kids in schools being bullied and even if there are kids who aren't gay, but are perceived as that or just being called the "f" word and harassed, how do you suggest stopping that if you can't mention anything about gays and lesbians? >> first, let me just say that we absolutely think every child should be protected from bullying. we know that bullies target children for a myriad of reasons. it could be that they're a little overweight, they wear glasses, maybe they're a special needs child and maybe they do identify as gay or lesbian and we believe that all of those kids, without exception, should be protected from bullying. >> how do you do that, though, without mentioning gays or lesbians or mentioning race or any of those other things when you're trying to combat it? >> well, we think that bullying policies, bullying prevention policies would be most effective if they addressed the far-reaching nature of this problem, which is so many kids, 30% of american children, are
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dealing with this. we really feel like the most effective policies and initiatives would be ones that protect any child against bullying for any reason. >> what does that mean? specifically, how do you do that? >> the correct focus would be preventing the wrong actions of the bully, not focusing on the characteristics of the victims. it doesn't matter why the victim was targeted. what matters is that their harm -- harming them was wrong for any reason. >> eliza, your group has been accused by focus on the family by spreading what they call a gay agenda in schools. why do you need to talk about or mention gays and lesbians in anti-bullying efforts? >> candi and i absolutely agree that all students need to be protected. the fact is and the data bears out, if you don't mention the specific problem, teachers don't act and students don't have a better experience. our bill would cover all students but indicate specifically that you must also
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include attention to these characteristics. and when you do, our data shows rates of harassment and victimization of lgbt, lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students goes down. if you don't mention that, there's no effect. >> candi, are you opposed to mentioning issues of race or opposed to mentioning issues of, i don't know, disability or a myriad of other reasons that kids could be taunted that you mentioned? those things in stopping anti- -- or addressing bullying? >> what we're in favor of are objective bullying policies that prevent bullying for any reason against any child. you know, i would be concerned if you started listing out too many categories. you're going to leave some kids off the list. what about overweight? what about kids that wear glasses? >> but can a teacher talk about that to a kid, to a classroom? can a teacher say some people are taunted because of race? and let's talk about that or let's talk about being
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overweight and let's talk about that. is that okay for you? >> well, what we're responding to through our website, truetolerance.org, which spurred some of this discussion, we're hearing from parents that are having homosexuality lessons presented to their kindergartners in the name of anti-bullying and we don't feel that's necessary and even the most effective way to prevent bullying. >> let me bring in rosalyn on that to address that point. let me come to you in a second. eliza, is that true? >> listen, i think the first thing i want to say is that focus on the family has chosen and, candi, you have chosen to attack the safe schools improvement act. what we find is that when school level policies actually mention sexual orientation and gender identity, rates of bullying and harassment go down. this is for all students. in 2005, students of all sexual orientations, races, religions told us when their school had this kind of policy in place, those students were less likely to say that bullying was a serious problem in their school.
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>> rosalyn, you work with schools all the time. >> all the time. >> you travel around the country. what do you actually see? do you see an agenda being spread and can you address bullying -- focus on the family is saying focus on the bully. is that an effective program? >> well, two things. one is that as a counselor who is actually going to be administrating this program, you have so many things to do that usually what happens, even with all these mandates, the best you'll get is a 45-minute presentation with 500 kids. a lot of our programs in schools are big schools, 3,000 kids, 2,500 kids. the logistics make this pretty much impossible to be able to do. that's the first thing. second, this is not just about the gay kids in school. it's about everybody. bullying does not exist without homophobia. kids are proving, they have to prove they belong to be men -- you're in seventh grade and you say something, you're speaking out about something being cruel, then someone is going to say to you, don't be gay. and that stops you from being
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able to say what you want to say, which is don't do it. that's literally teaching you to be paralyzed and silent in the face of cruelty. it's not just about the gay kids being safe, which i believe 100% they have the right to be. it is also about everybody in the school feeling that they have the right to speak out. if we don't name this behavior, then we are going to lose it and it's going to go back to bullying in the playground is the problem and we're going to lose all of the improvements we've made. >> candi, the idea of naming that behavior, you're opposed to, yes? >> well, i would be in favor of a teacher directly confronting a child bullying another child that's identified as gay. i think that should be stopped. our viewpoint comes from the belief that all human beings, all students are created in god's image and deserve to be protected because they are a human being, uniquely created by god and not because of the political subgroup they identify with or how they identify sexually. that's how we think these bullying policies should be based, widespread, neutral
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protection. >> anderson, can i say, but in all respect -- in all respect, it does not in any way reflect the reality of what schools are like. we can have policies that are about ideal reality or policies that are about concrete reality and reflect what children are experiencing. that's when we become relevant to young people. if you don't, it doesn't work. >> why don't you focus on the bully? if you read focus on the family -- >> you have to do both. >> they have a three-page thing saying bullying is bad. you should, you know, punish the bullies, not tolerate it, not tolerate people attacking anybody who has come forward to speak. what's wrong with just that? >> because when you do that, it becomes a gray area and it becomes a he said, she said or he said, he said thing. and it becomes a way of it's on -- the owness is on the victim to be able to prove that, without a shadow of the doubt that what's happened to him or what's happened to her is so
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difficult it's impossible for them to be able to go to school. that's what we're doing. that's what we're talking about. you take out that language of naming the behavior, it becomes so -- there's nothing to talk about. there's no place to talk. there's no place for that kid to define what's happening to them and they also feel like they're so ashamed that they can't talk about it. these words are not allowed to be talked about. so then they lose the whole process and the whole ability to have the conversation and become silent. >> certainly a lot of parents don't believe that being gay or being lesbian is okay and don't want their kids, especially very young kids, being exposed to that. do you think this should be mandatory for everybody? >> the safe schools improvement act is about behavior, not beliefs. as a common ground issue, apart from any other kind of diverse ilt curriculum or importance of respect in a diverse society, just looking at the safe schools improvement act and the problem of bullying, when you name the problem, people act.
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teachers in schools that have these policies are more likely to stop this and kids are less likely to be harassed and victimized and essentially, as rosalyn is referring to, it's a dynamic in a classroom. bullies need our help. victims need our help and bystanders need our help. they need adults to act, to take care of the culture of that classroom and build a culture of respect. >> candi, your final thought? >> what we're concerned about are the parents we're getting phone calls from that don't want controversial sexual topics introduced to their kids without their permission, especially at the kindergarten level. that's why we wanted to say this issue doesn't need to be politicized. we don't need to bring adult political issues into it. we want all kids to be protected from bullying, regardless of how they identify. >> appreciate you being on, eliza byard as well and rosalyn wiseman.
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imagine not having a hot meal for about a month. for the first time since being trapped underground, more than three weeks ago, the 33 miners in chile tonight are having a hot dinner. it's a milestone in their ordeal and comes as rescue workers have finally begun to drill to free them. now, you remember the first video we showed you friday night of their situation underground. well, we have new video tonight. it seems their situation has improved a lot. it's tonight's "360 dispatch." take a look. >> for the 33 men, this is their lifeline, one of three narrow tubes that brings them bottles of water, food and medicine. some supplies needed to sustain them for months underground. the latest video taken by the miners offers encouraging new details about their subterranean existence. there's nothing done without order, says mario, the spokesman for the men. everything here is at hand, he says and everything you need, you see. unlike last week's footage,
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several men are seen in shirts, clean shaven and apparently in better health. when the ordeal began, the men were given only liquid vitamins and protein. now they're being sent sandwiches, yogurt and cereal. for dinner wednesday night, they're having meatballs and rice. >> we've been eating according to the diet you sent us, mario says. beds have also arrived piece by piece through the pipe, though not enough for all. beds are given to those who need them the most. the phone they use to communicate with officials and loved ones and to show us that their sense of humor is intact, we put the phone over here so each one can have some privacy, he says. chilean men are very macho and don't like people to see us cry. joking. they now have mp3 players. music has arrived, organizing today's party. we're super happy. we've been dancing to a couple songs. 2,300 feet above, a drill cuts
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into the earth, beginning of what everyone prays is the end. the families of the miners are nearby in tents. they call it camp hope. we're happy because the drill has arrived, the wife of one miner says. we're happy because we know they'll rescue them. back in the mine, a strange sight. white pickup truck once used to ferry the men to work is now a place to sleep for one of the miners. the truck is an area they'll move to as the rescues crews draw closer. the video ends with a chant for their country with the message of unity and patriotism. to all of chile. if we felt proud about our country and chilean mining before, we feel even more proud because of what's being done. we're following other important stories tonight. isha sesay joins us with the "360 bulletin." >> the dutch government has freed two men arrested monday on suspicion of terrorism after flight from chicago.
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they are citizens of yemen and were in the u.s. legally. alarms were raised by suspicious items in their checked luggage. an investigation turned up no evidence of terrorist activity. the imam who wants to build an islamic center and mosque near ground zero returns to new york tomorrow. feisal abdul rauf has been in the middle east for two weeks on an outreach mission for the state department. his planned center has sparked a national debate over religious freedom versus the sensitivities of 9/11 families. apple is reintroducing a new and much smaller version of apple tv and slashing the price to $99 from $299. one new feature, anderson, tv shows can be rented for just 99 cents. >> that's cool. >> i have to tell you, i'm thinking about relocating to my surfer, changing my cell phone message saying isha can't be reached right now, she's watching every episode of "grey's anatomy" ever made. that's what i'm thinking. >> are you a "grey's anatomy" fan? >> i am. aren't you? >> i have never actually watched
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mideast leaders have been trying and failing to solve the
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mideast conflict, with u.s. president presidents caught in the middle. formal talks will begin tomorrow, benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas, president obama said the two sides had made progress. here is prime minister netanyahu. >> president abbas, you are my partner in peace. and it is up to us, with the help of our friends, to conclude the agonizing conflict between our peoples and to afford them a new beginning. >> so, is this a new beginning or is this like so many beginnings we've seen before in years past? joining us now is senior political analyst david gergen. thank you very much for being with us. what do you make of the statements made by benjamin netanyahu, often referred to peace talks as a waste of time.
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today he said, i quote, we seek a peace that will end the conflict between us once and for all. is this a big deal? >> there are signs of hope, tempered hope, to be sure. the fact that two sides are sitting down, talking to each other directly for the first time in almost two years, that's progress. the fact that after intense provocation with hamas shooting israelis in the west bank, both leaders vowed tonight, palestinian and israeli leaders vowed tonight they wouldn't let terrorists derail these talks. the fact that president obama got egyptian president and king abdullah of jordan to give arab backing to this, that helps the palestinian cause. as anyone who has watched this over the years knows the odds are still long. we've got something coming up september 26th, netanyahu has to decide if he's going to extend the freeze on settlements and that's -- whole talks could collapse very shortly if he decides to go forward. there's a lot of pressure in israel to have some kind of
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settlement. >> how much rides on president obama for this? i mean, is it -- is there a lot riding on it for him? obviously if there's progress, that reflects well on him. if there's not, is there any blow-back for that? >> well, we have seen in the past when president clinton got deeply involved and president bush got deeply involved, they made progress and then things failed and there was renewed violence. so, you can go backwards if you try too hard. what's interesting here, anderson, is that king abdullah of jordan called directly on president obama to inject himself and be the leader in these talks. last night, of course, president obama gave a speech to this country, saying we're pivoting. we're going to make jobs and the economy here at home my central concern of this administration. within 24 hours he's off launching this critical new phase in the middle east talks.
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a lot of americans would get whiplash watching this. from my perspective, anderson, it will be really important that he give hillary clinton and george mitchell, her negotiator, a lot of responsibility in these early months while he focuses on the economy. i just don't see how he can go off and spend sort of kissingerian time on the middle east. i don't think that serves the country's interest and i don't think he's going to want to do that right now. >> david gergen, we'll continue to watch. thank you. [ dr. banholzer ] every once in awhile
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these days people resicycle paper and plastics. what about clothing? one company has come up with a way to achieve that. it's called wearable collections, an eco-friendly fashion statement. here is stephanie elam. >> reporter: ask new yorkers how they get rid of clothes they don't want anymore and you're likely to get the same answer. >> threw them in the trash. >> just put them in the garbage. >> textiles make up 6% of new york city's waste a year. >> amounting to about 386 million pounds of textiles heading toward our wasteland. that's a significant amount that can be reused for other purposes. >> wearable collections is helping new yorkers cut that number down. >> we try to make it as easy as possible for new yorkers to recycle their clothing, as it is to recycle their cans, bottles and newspapers. >> the company's bins collect
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fabric and clothes in about 150 apartment buildings across the city. >> how much do you get on a daily basis? >> anywhere from 3,000 to 4,000 pounds. >> banana republic jeans here that look perfectly fine. somebody could wear these. >> somebody could wear these. somebody will wear these again. fine wallet. >> fine quality jacket there. >> actually -- >> and a skirt. >> a skirt as well. >> these green markets. >> thank you. >> i had to go 40 blocks out of my way or 10 blocks out of my way i probably wouldn't donate. it's just too much trouble to go. >> everything is then sold to a sorting facility and they give 20% of their gross proceeds to partnering charities. >> we're creating money from used clothing. >> any given month i could write checks to 10 to 20 charities. checks are anywhere from $50 to $300, $400. >> from there, some of the clothes are reused as secondhand apparel. some are turned io rags and the rest is shredded into fibers for carpet padding, seat
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cushioning and insulation, renewed purpose for stuff that otherwise would clog landfills. >> if there's an unlimited amount of resource, we can't act like that. we will either reap the rewards of consciousness or pay the penalty of not being conscious. >> stephanie elam, cnn, new york. >> there you go. that does it for 360. thanks for watching. larry king starts now. see you tomorrow night.
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